Spilled Milk

Episode 765: Pocari Sweat

Episode Notes

Today M and M taste unnervingly white water while recounting uncomfortable memories. Naturally they solicit compliments and break into song, but before that they try these challenging yet popular electrolyte replacements and yearn for the taste of first love with a front of mouth sweetness. Sweat and piss not included but, be warned, you will get pumped.

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Episode Transcription

Molly  0:04  

I'm Molly

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  0:05  

and I'm Matthew,

 

Molly  0:05  

and this is Spilled Milk, the show where we cook something delicious, eat it all, and you can't have any.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  0:10  

And today we're talking about pakari sweat, and also some other like white Japanese beverages.

 

Molly  0:18  

It is unnerving how white these are sort of, they look like water, but milkier.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  0:24  

Yeah, so we're gonna be talking about Pecari Sweat, Aquarius, and Calpis, and I know Calpis is like not really exactly the same genre. Sorry, why are

 

Molly  0:32  

you saying Calpis? Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  0:33  

it's called Calpis in Japan, it's called Cal Pico in North America, because Calpis has piss in

 

Molly  0:39  

it. Yeah, it sure does. Okay, calpico. Okay, got it. So, what is this stuff, Matthew? But will you define it before we get into any memory lane?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  0:50  

Okay. So, this is two different beverages that are associated with Japan. One of them is sort of a like very light yogurt drink, that's the calpico, and then one of them is a sports drink that I only learned, like, yesterday, while researching. This is allegedly grapefruit flavored. I challenge you to detect any note of grapefruit. Okay, but, like, these - these are very, very popular beverages in Japan, and to some of them also worldwide.

 

Molly  1:20  

And is Pokhari sweat sort of meant to be sort of a like a Gatorade analog?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  1:26  

Yes, absolutely.

 

Molly  1:27  

Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  1:28  

and we'll get to it. Okay, what's your memory lane?

 

Molly  1:31  

Zero. But I've seen Captico a lot whenever I'm in like an Asian supermarket, and I've always wondered what it is. It's always in the refrigerated, like,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  1:41  

well, we're gonna find out,

 

Molly  1:42  

you know, single serving drink section.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  1:45  

Okay, so I do a little bit of memory lane. So Pokhari sweat, I feel like I may have first heard, like, in a Dave Berry book or column, just as, like, can you believe that in Japan there's a, there's a drink that has sweat in the name, like, and this was like things like, you know, like, you know, it's a funny name of a drink in Japan, and like, it doesn't seem funny anymore, because now, like, I've had it many times, and, like, you know, obviously it's not supposed to taste like sweat. It's my big memory of Bakari sweat is like many, many years ago now. I was in Japan, and I got norovirus. I've told this story on the show before, and I was adopted by this family that I met, the Lightning family, in Fukuoka, Japan, who took me in, even though I was like disgustingly sick, and they barely knew me because I had written to this guy, Johnny, who had a ramen blog, because I was going to Fukuoka, which is famous for ramen, and I was hoping he would take me to eat ramen, which he did, and then I got disgustingly sick, and his family, like, came to pick me up at the hospital, pay my hospital bill, because I didn't have cash, I did pay them back, and then let me stay at their house for almost a week, and while I was recovering, drank Pokhari sweat nonstop, because it's considered like it's like an electrolyte replacement beverage, so, so it's considered like, you know, if you, if you are like sick to your stomach and like lots of stuff is coming out of you, you should drink this, and so I did, and it was helpful. My friend Johnny died recently, and so I, that's one of, one of many nice memories that that I remember him for, and I'm gonna miss him a lot.

 

Molly  3:22  

Truly, an above and beyond kind of friend. Yeah, that is a wild story.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  3:26  

I once won one memory that popped in my house, I once asked him, like, because he really loved ramen, like, what was the most ramen he ever ate in one day? And he said he was one time he was driving through Wakayama Prefecture, which is known for really good ramen. He said, I had five bowls of ramen in one day. Said it was good, and it was bad.

 

Molly  3:48  

That's perfect. Yes, that's perfect.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  3:53  

Oh my gosh. And then more recently, there is a knockoff of Bakari sweat that I also bought today, called Aquarius, which is made by Coca Cola. And when Watson and I were in Spain recently, I was really thirsty, like the first day I went into a convenience store and they had Aquarius. I'm like, that's the, that's like the Porcari sweat knockoff that I drank, you know, last time I got sick in Japan, but I got some, and it was like, I was like, yeah, this actually really hits the spot when you're, when you're really thirsty. We'll get into Aquarius in Spain and Portugal a little more later.

 

Molly  4:27  

Okay, I'm so interested in my own response to the fact that these are un colored.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  4:33  

Yeah,

 

Molly  4:34  

because I like it makes so much sense that they would be uncolored. I mean, why on earth is Gatorade original here, yeah. Let's crack open the original Pokhari sweat,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  4:45  

okay? And these are not carbonated, except for

 

Molly  4:48  

one, okay?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  4:49  

Cheers.

 

Molly  4:50  

Now that you've told me that it's supposed to be grapefruit, I do sort

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  4:54  

of taste it.

 

Molly  4:54  

I do get a little bit like there's a hint of Fresca, just a little whiff of Fresca, yes, in there. Yeah, which doesn't taste like grapefruit either, right? But I know it's meant to, yeah.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  5:03  

So I guess it does have some, a little bit of like fake grapefruit to it.

 

Molly  5:07  

It's interesting. I prefer it over any flavor of Gatorade.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  5:12  

Yeah, I think me too. Although I'm like, I'm fine with Gatorade, also like if I'm, if I'm sick, like I will probably get some Gatorade at some point, or ginger ale, probably both.

 

Molly  5:22  

Do they sell Pokhari sweat in any bigger containers?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  5:26  

Oh, they sure do.

 

Molly  5:27  

Oh, good. Yeah. Okay. Okay. This is interesting to think about. I'm kind of, so I have to have semi regular colosto colostomy. Wow, I hope not. Colonoscopies, and I've always done this, like Gatorade prep instead of the prescription prep.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  5:46  

I'm sure this would work the same. Yeah,

 

Molly  5:48  

I think this would be preferable in terms of flavor.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  5:51  

Yeah, no, it really was very reassuring, like, you know, that sort of, like, you know, here's the thing that you're supposed to drink when you're sick to your stomach, and it's like, yeah, this seems right somehow.

 

Molly  6:02  

Okay, Aquarius has more of a grapefruit flavor.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  6:05  

Yeah,

 

Molly  6:06  

I like Aquarius, it's got more flavor.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  6:08  

I like them both, like, yeah, Pocari Sweat feels a little more like, you know, functional to me, just because

 

Molly  6:15  

I taste it again. Yeah, well, it tastes, I guess, Pokhari sweat tastes a little bit less like a soda, whereas Aquarius hit me with

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  6:22  

a little more. That

 

Molly  6:23  

is tending a little more towards soda in terms of flavor. Do they have added sugar?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  6:30  

Yeah, they do. Although there's, there's like, you know, non-calorie versions of both of them.

 

Molly  6:35  

Oh, Pokhari sweat is actually, you're right, it tastes less sweet. More

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  6:41  

Aquarius has art, it must have artificial sweetener because it has like 19 calories versus 120 calories for Pecari sweat.

 

Molly  6:47  

Okay, the

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  6:48  

artificial sweetener, I think, is part of the flavor profile of Aquarius.

 

Molly  6:51  

There's an aftertaste to Pecari sweat that I don't love, but, but Gatorade has that same thing.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  6:57  

Yeah, no, interestingly, I like the Pecari sweat better, even though, like, I agree, like, Aquarius is like a more flavorful drink, that is, that it was more like a soda,

 

Molly  7:06  

yeah.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  7:07  

But if I'm gonna have something like this, I want, I want kind of the more medicinal one. I think it's purely like a psychological thing.

 

Molly  7:14  

I get that.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  7:15  

Okay, so Pecari Sweat was launched in 1980 around the same time that Gatorade was becoming popular, and it was not a response to Gatorade. They both kind of appeared on the market at around the same time. It's just like, a, you know, sports are in the air, and, like, you know, so that we got to have some, like, sports drinks to go with our sports. According to Wikipedia, quote, Bakari Sweat was launched in 1980 in Japan by Rokuro Harima, an Otsuka pharmaceutical employee, who came up with the idea after observing a doctor drink IV solution to rehydrate.

 

Molly  7:45  

What is

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  7:46  

this? I mean, you, your father was a doctor. Did you ever see him doing

 

Molly  7:50  

this? No, I did not. I'm curious, is this something that actually happens?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  7:57  

I don't know. I know there's a product called Liquid IV that I hear I've advertised on podcasts.

 

Molly  8:02  

Oh, yeah, that's isn't it like a drop or something? Yeah,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  8:05  

powder, yeah. I don't know, but I guess it's a great story, because now I can't unsee it.

 

Molly  8:13  

Yeah, that's disgusting. I mean,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  8:15  

it seems like I sort of imagine the doctor like sinking their fangs into the bag like a vampire, that's how you have to

 

Molly  8:23  

do it. Yeah, you got a really sharp canines.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  8:25  

Pecari doesn't really mean anything, and sweat, obviously, was meant to suggest that it replaces the water and minerals lost in sweat. And, oh, yes, the low-calorie version is called Pecari Sweat Ion Water, which I really like. Yeah, that's very scientific. It definitely means something. Okay, let's skip over Calico for now and go on to Aquarius, because we just tasted it, and it is a direct competitor to Pocari Sweat.

 

Molly  8:50  

Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  8:50  

so last time I was in Japan, I came down with a bad cold, and I was like, okay, I need to drink one of these drinks, drink when you're sick drinks, and I started drinking Aquarius because it was a little bit cheaper than a Pakari Sweat, okay, and so it is a Pocari Sweat knockoff made by Coca Cola, first marketed in 1983 The thing I didn't know about it is that this drink is massively successful worldwide.

 

Molly  9:15  

I see that it has the FIFA, like official official partner logo on here for like FIFA 2026 it

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  9:23  

was the official drink of the 1992 94 2008 2016 and 2020 Olympics, and when I read that, I was like, okay, it must have been like one of like 17 official drinks, no, it was the official drink,

 

Molly  9:37  

wow, so

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  9:38  

the first place they really like cracked an international market was Spain and Portugal. You can go into any bar in Spain and say give me an Aquarius and they've got it, and probably original flavor or orange. Yeah,

 

Molly  9:53  

okay.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  9:53  

And like, if you go into stores, I saw peach flavor, like they had a bunch of different flavors.

 

Molly  9:58  

Do you think it's still tree? Did as a sports drink, no. Those contents,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  10:03  

I think. I think it's more just like a soda, or like, you know, a non-alcoholic option. I assume people also like mix it with alcohol, but I don't know. So interesting idea. So it was really, it was weird. I was like, why do they have this like knockoff Japanese convenience store drink here? Oh no, it's huge in Spain.

 

Molly  10:20  

So hold on to find it in the US. Did you have to go to an Asian supermarket? Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  10:27  

I don't think they sell it like a QFC, but I don't know, like it doesn't. I feel like I would have noticed if it was really popular in the US, but but they did have it, I let's move on to a totally different drink that I included just because it's another popular Japanese beverage that it's not as well known in North America and it's white, so that is calpis or calpico, so it's kara pisu in Japanese, and we'll get to where the name comes from. They changed the name to Capico because they want to market a name with piss. So, unlike Bakari sweat, this is a yogurt-based drink.

 

Molly  11:12  

Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  11:12  

and or a fermented milk drink, and it's sort of.. you ever had Yakult?

 

Molly  11:18  

No, it's

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  11:18  

like the one in the little tiny plastic bottle, my mom

 

Molly  11:21  

has bought them before. Is it similar to, like, kefir? Yeah. Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  11:26  

for sure. Okay, it's like that, but it's more dilute and, like, less marketed for, like, you know, health or digestive benefits, and more just as, like, a tasty beverage. Okay. And, and, like, as a mixer, as, like, a flavoring, like, I've had, like various kalpas flavored candies and mints in Japan, so it has like a pretty distinctive like yogurt-ish flavor.

 

Molly  11:49  

I'm struggling with the concept of this mess. I

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  11:52  

think I think you will find it less challenging than

 

Molly  11:55  

I mean, surely it's not very challenging. It's so popular.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  12:01  

Yeah, it's good.

 

Molly  12:02  

Well, yeah, I like that, but it's kind of tangy sugar water.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  12:06  

It is tangy sugar water, for sure. So, this is a much, much older product than Bakari sweat or Aquarius, which I did not realize until I started researching for this episode. It started in 1919 It was inspired by a Central Asian fermented milk beverage called Kumis, and the creator, I think, I think it said he first tasted it in Mongolia. His name is Kyun Mishima, and tried many failed products before succeeding with Calpis. Tried marketing many failed products. The most interesting of these, according to Wikipedia quote, Lacto caramel, a product that contained live lactic acid bacteria, it was discontinued because the product melted during the summer, so I kind of imagine this guy, like, you know, putting this stuff on the market, like in November, and be like, this is going great, I'm gonna hit it big, and then, like, June rolls around, like, oh no, my entire

 

Molly  12:55  

inventory is melted. Okay, so he invented cow piss, how, like, he just did, he already have, was he just like trying to get rid of a whole bunch of like yogurt,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  13:07  

he was maybe trying to get rid of a whole bunch of yogurt, so like he had tried, it was like working on various like fermented milk products, and Calpis was, he added a bunch of sugar to one of his earlier failed products, and then market it with a like a long time slogan for this product, quote the taste of first love.

 

Molly  13:25  

What? Hold on, let me taste it again. Is it slightly orange flavored?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  13:30  

Maybe a little bit,

 

Molly  13:32  

like a, like a very delicious flavor. You're absolutely cream sickle. It's kind of.. um, I mean, I like it. It's just, it's kind of weird, and it's,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  13:43  

yeah,

 

Molly  13:43  

it's kind of weird. Okay. And so, what is this? This is

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  13:47  

Calpico soda. It's, it's just carbonated calculus.

 

Molly  13:50  

Okay. And so, could.. I'm sorry. Wait. Oh, oh, hey, wait. mr. Etymology, is that you?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  13:58  

Yes, it's me. Come in, I It, so the name Calpis came from the cow, is for calcium, because it's a milk product. Okay, and the, and the piece is from the Sanskrit word sarpus, which refers to ghee or a similar, like clarified butter product. Clarified butters are considered like sort of a symbolically important flavor in Buddhism, so like if you're going to compare something, Molly's not a fan of the carbonated, carbonated calculus, if you're going to compare, just compare something to like the greatest flavor known known to humanity, you'll probably pick something like, like daigo, like, like ghee, like in Japanese, and so it's like basically, like, you know, it's calcium, and it tastes really good.

 

Molly  14:49  

Okay, mr. Etymology, do you have anything else you want to share?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  14:52  

No.

 

Molly  14:53  

Okay. Bye.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  14:54  

It's me. It

 

Molly  14:56  

was me.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  14:57  

It was me. Jump on a boat, okay. Yeah,

 

Molly  15:00  

so okay, here's something. This is

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  15:03  

super sweet, but I do kind of like it.

 

Molly  15:04  

Okay, so yeah, it's really interesting. I'm looking at the difference in the nutrition labels of the like the regular non-carbonated calico versus the calico soda. Okay, it's amazing that calico soda has like 50% more calories, sugar. Yeah, so it must be a lot more sugar, a

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  15:23  

lot more sugar. Yeah, I think this.. I would, I would buy a version of this that was less sweet. It's very sweet, but it is soda, and like it's a good soda. One

 

Molly  15:33  

thing that's interesting to me about the sweetness of both the carbonated and non-carbonated calpico is it has this sweetness that's very much like at the front of my mouth, the way things sweetened with stevia are.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  15:48  

Yeah, you know that,

 

Molly  15:49  

like stevia sweetness, they both taste like stevia.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  15:52  

Yeah, they both have like cane sugar.

 

Molly  15:55  

Okay, can I have a little bit of.. oh no,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  15:58  

I'm sorry, I'm completely wrong. This one has stevia.

 

Molly  16:02  

Oh, it has stevia. It has

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:03  

and cane sugar. Yes, I am

 

Molly  16:05  

shocked. I can't believe this one.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:07  

Okay, and this one has the.. so the carbonated has stevia, the non-carbonated has sucralose. So both of them have artificial sweeteners.

 

Molly  16:14  

Okay. Okay, I don't feel like somebody.. maybe I.. maybe I just don't eat very much artificial sweetener, because I feel like I can really taste it. Yeah,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:24  

no, no, you're right.

 

Molly  16:25  

That's so wonderful. What

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:27  

about these other ones, like the Pecari sweat, great? That's right, very sweat ingredients: purified water, cane sugar, less than 1% of other stuff.

 

Molly  16:37  

Okay, no, this is high fructose corn syrup.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:40  

Okay, Pecari has no artificial sweeteners.

 

Molly  16:43  

Oh, it does have

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:44  

artificial flavors.

 

Molly  16:45  

Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:45  

yeah.

 

Molly  16:46  

Interesting. So,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:48  

I find all of these reasonably refreshing. I

 

Molly  16:52  

find all of these tastier than I would think.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:54  

Yeah, right.

 

Molly  16:54  

Yeah,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  16:55  

and like when it's a like a hot day and you've just like sweating your ass off in Japan, a Pokhari sweat really hits the spot.

 

Molly  17:03  

I can imagine also that a calpico would do really big time, especially really nice and cold.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  17:09  

Yeah, okay. So, and this one other, another little tidbit that has nothing to do with today's topic, but I clicked over to a different Wikipedia article about a New Zealand flavored water brand called Pump, which has also been marketed as Pumped and Pump Plus. So I'm thinking maybe, like, if we can get our hands on this, we should get pumped for a future. I would love

 

Molly  17:30  

to get pumped, you know. Pump Plus, pump me up.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  17:33  

Yep, yeah. So, so like one other thing about Calpis, I forgot to mention, like I said, like it's it is often used as a mixer. Many, many places in Japan have, like, a cal piss sour piss chew high on the menu, like kalpas mixed with soda water and shochu.

 

Molly  17:50  

Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  17:50  

for as like a refreshing alcoholic drink.

 

Molly  17:54  

Yeah, I believe it.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  17:55  

Yeah, I don't think I've ever had one, and I will try one next time I'm in Japan.

 

Molly  18:00  

Does Cal Pico come with other flavors? Do I feel like I've seen the.. I'm pretty sure flavors. Yeah, okay.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  18:06  

I mean, because this one says original, I think.. I think maybe even it was next to one that was a different flavor, and I was like, we're not gonna drink that many sodas, but I revisit the topic.

 

Molly  18:15  

Also, want to say that I really like the branding of both Pokhari sweat and Kal Pico, yeah.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  18:21  

So Pokhari sweat is just so

 

Molly  18:23  

clean,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  18:24  

it's so clean. And then Cal Pico, the color scheme is so satisfying.

 

Molly  18:28  

I, we just don't have a whole lot of commercial labels that involve polka dots.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  18:34  

Yeah, here I feel like it's both like rich, nostalgic, and modern.

 

Molly  18:40  

Yeah, it's fascinating. Okay, I'm really glad we did this, Matthew. I've always wondered what that stuff tastes like. That's

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  18:46  

it. Just, it's just an excuse to rehydrate, pump up our electrolytes.

 

Molly  18:52  

Yeah, I feel pumped, and I haven't even

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  18:55  

had pumped or pump plus.

 

Molly  18:57  

No, Matthew, did

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  18:58  

you ever have Reebok pumps?

 

Molly  19:00  

No, but I remember when they came out. Those were so cool. Remember

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  19:04  

the Nike ad about how, like, you know, this guy can't, like, dunk the basketball because he's still pumping up his Reeboks, but, like, the guy wearing Nikes doesn't need to stop and pump his shoes.

 

Molly  19:16  

Oh man, what

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  19:17  

a dumb idea for a shoe that, that at the time, I thought was so cool. We thought it was so cool.

 

Molly  19:23  

Okay, Matthew, can I share some spilled mail? Please do this one really delights me. This comes from listener Cirrus of Berkeley, California. Hey, Molly and Matthew. In episode 751 Deodorant, you discussed proper pronunciation of the word ribald, which is spelled r i b a l d. To assist you, I can point toward no greater authority than the late great satirist and mathematician Tom Lehrer, who in. His song Smut deployed the devilish couplet I never quibbled if it was ribald. Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  20:06  

we'll link to, we'll link to that, that song in the show notes.

 

Molly  20:09  

Oh, it's pretty amazing. Thank you, listener Siris.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  20:13  

Yeah, I believe, like Tom Lehrer died not that long ago, and I believe when he did, he put all of his music into the public domain,

 

Molly  20:21  

that's fantastical, right? Yeah, that's amazing. Someone tell me

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  20:24  

if I got that wrong, but I think that's what happened.

 

Molly  20:25  

Okay, Matthew, what you're snacking?

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  20:27  

Oh, let me grab it.

 

Molly  20:29  

Okay,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  20:30  

hey, what you're snacking, you gotta tell me what you're snacking, or I'll release the cracking. So, what you're snacking?

 

Molly  20:40  

Oh boy. boy, okay, this looks like a little kind of very pale green,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  20:48  

it's got veins like

 

Molly  20:49  

yogurt coated cracker,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  20:51  

okay, it's a Trader Joe's key lime pie inspired grams, they are graham crackers covered in key lime yogurt candy coating, do you need to hear more than that, but the thing I like, they are so tart, like I think they're so good. I would have never bought this, yeah, without, like, without the tartness, like they would just be cloying, I think, but

 

Molly  21:11  

I would have never bought this, and I'm so glad you did. The second half of the experience of chewing them, once you've kind of got the gram broken up, it's so good,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  21:26  

it gets more sour, as

 

Molly  21:29  

so good.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  21:30  

Really good flavor design, guys.

 

Molly  21:32  

Okay, so that's Trader Joe's key lime pie-inspired grams. They come in a bag,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  21:37  

they come in a bag.

 

Molly  21:38  

Well, no, but I mean, I would have thought they came in like a box or like a sleeve, they're not in the cracker

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  21:43  

aisle, they're in like the cookie section, because they wear cookies,

 

Molly  21:47  

they're probably where there are, you know, all the like chocolate bark, and yeah, it's in the bark aisle, it's in the bark aisle

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  21:54  

above the freezer,

 

Molly  21:55  

yep, yeah,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  21:55  

okay, Molly, do you have a now, but wow, I

 

Molly  22:06  

Oh, well, guess what, Matthew. Yes, so for listeners who are listening to this on the day it comes out, which is August 27 I just want to remind them that tomorrow is Matthew's birthday, so I'm

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  22:19  

your now, but wow, wow,

 

Molly  22:22  

you are here now, and I am so wowed. And

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  22:26  

tomorrow I maybe I'll be somewhere else. I don't know what should I do for my birthday this year.

 

Molly  22:32  

I don't know. Last

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  22:34  

year was pretty epic.

 

Molly  22:36  

We did karaoke. We

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  22:37  

did karaoke. We did karaoke. Then I got a burrito afterwards.

 

Molly  22:40  

Oh, fantastic. Well, we'll have to figure it out august 28 Let's wish our most wowful Matthew a very now kind of wow birthday.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  22:54  

Our producer is Abby Circatella.

 

Molly  22:56  

You can rate and review us wherever you get your podcasts,

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  22:59  

and hop on Reddit and wish me a happy birthday at reddit.com/r/everything spilled milk, and start a whole thread about things you like about me, because my self-esteem is never in question,

 

Molly  23:14  

and you know if you start thinking of some things that you like about me, you can start a thread for that too, because my birthday is september 14.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  23:23  

That's right, so we can, we can even be on the same thread, and then we can like start to like swap each other. It's like, you know, we can each, we can each like accept

 

Molly  23:31  

people like my beard.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  23:33  

People love your beard, yeah, like we'll both will both accept

 

Molly  23:38  

like my muscular calves and my toe socks. Do I

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  23:42  

have muscular calves? You do. I was just

 

Molly  23:44  

looking at them when you got out the key lime pie inspired grams.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  23:47  

It's true that I never skip leg day. Okay, anyway,

 

Molly  23:53  

whatever. For values

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  23:55  

of true approaching false.

 

Molly  23:56  

Happy birthday.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  23:58  

Thank you.

 

Molly  23:59  

And thank you to our listeners who give us a reason

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  24:06  

to

 

Molly  24:07  

sweat, sweat.

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  24:12  

I'm Matthew Amster.

 

Molly  24:24  

august 26 Wish our most wowful Matthew is

 

Matthew Amster-Burton  24:29  

the other way.

 

Molly  24:33  

Hold on, let's try that again.

 

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